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Referendum in the proposed state constitutional amendment, A new democratic antics from the Party and the communist State government of Vietnam










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In less than two months, a vital national events of the entire nation of Vietnam was the Party and the communist government of Vietnam turned into farce brought jokes to the people throughout the country and the International Community. The joy of the whole country just flashed since the campaign took comments from people in the draft amendments to the Constitution of the State that the Party and the State government of Vietnam launched a frantic, and fun which is mirrored after his eloquent statement Phan Trung Ly, Chief Editor of the Draft Amendment to the Constitution Committee, which allocated responsibility drafted the Constitution states that: "In our country, All power belongs to the people so the people have a very important role in the development and amendment of the Constitution State "as well as in the previous statement, Mr. Li also strongly stated that" without any any taboo for people to edit comments amend the State Constitution this time .... 

Seemingly the country will be changed after cognitive nice change from the Communist Party and the State government Vietnam making the referendum and the draft revision of the Constitution in a democratic manner. However, the joy of the people in whole country are still incomplete, the Party and State government communist of Vietnam poured the cold water up the head of people shamelessly. Turns out it was just awkward drama of the Party and the State government in order to lull the people of Vietnam and deceive the International Community. It is poignant and bitter when the adults, children, the elderly, including all ethnic, religious from knowledge to farmers, from student to  workers, labor component, and even senior officers, government officials, generals, even in retirement are Communist Party and State government of Vietnam jokingly as a small kid . 

What has caused the leaders of the Communist Party and the State government Vietnam deceiving the people and the International Community brazenly and shamelessly? Fearing of people seizing power uprising, overthrew the regime should exhibit the Democratic-style farce to reassure and placate the people or habit deceive people, an inherent nature for so long of the Communists have become familiar action can not be modified or abandoned? Either way, and whether any reason, then the leaders of the Communist Party and the State government Vietnam can not quibble over his blatant fraudulent act unless serious and honest receiving the comments of the people that typically petition the State to amend the Constitution this time by the group of 72 leading intellectuals of Vietnam initiated. Hope that the leaders of the Party and the government aware of one thing that the Constitution of the best and most effective for the construction and development of the country's Constitution is built from the best ideas People of all classes, and meet all the legitimate aspirations of the people of Vietnam, as well as meet the practical benefits of National and Ethnic. 



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Vietnamnet ngày 29 tháng 12, 2012.   The letter was published on the website Bauxite Vietnam Phan Trung Ly signed by him sent to the former Minister of Justice Nguyen Dinh Loc answered about the proposed Draft Constitution of 1992 shows the view of the Drafting Committee Constitution were very limp when done collecting the opinions of people that is 72 intellectuals with more than four thousand people signed.

Say one thing do another 

Article 1 of the letter clearly stated: draft Commission recommendation to amend the Constitution in 1992 published the draft Constitution by Mr. Loc and drafting some citizens are not in accordance with the provisions of Article 1 of Resolution No. 38/2012/QH13 November 23, 2013 of the National Assembly noted that "people's organizations consulted on the draft amendment of the 1992 Constitution has been revised on the basis of the opinions of the delegates National Assembly at its fourth session, the National Assembly XIII Commission draft amendments to the Constitution in 1992 announced.

Read the contents of one of many letters from amazement when he Phan Trung Ly took 38 Resolution of the National Assembly to reject the opinions of the 72 intellectuals in the comment draft amendments to the Constitution in 1992. This completely goes against the widespread propaganda going on all over the state media today.

It noted the swapping concept of using his words Phan Trung Ly when rejected proposals of 72 intellectuals by Resolution but then still insists on offering his people were denied the former Minister Minister Nguyen Dinh Loc with slick words in the passage next:


Ông Phan Trung Lý phát biểu tại Thường vụ Quốc hội.  Photo: N.H/vnexpress

Mr. Phan Trung Ly said at the National 
Assembly Standing. Photo: NH / vnexpress 


"The opinion of the agency organizations including his opinions will be gathered in the process of revision of the research amendment of the 1992 Constitution in accordance with the rest of the National Assembly's Resolution No. 38/2012/QH13.

Then after that he Phan Trung Ly went too far when prompted a former Department of Justice to comply with the provisions of the law when he writes:

many people could not help but surprised when he Phan Trung Ly took 38 Resolution of the National Assembly to reject the opinions of 72 intellectuals in the comments a draft amendment of the Constitution in 1992. This completely goes against the widespread propaganda going on all over the state media agency 

So respectfully request Mr. comply with the provisions of the law and the Resolution No. 38/2012 of the National Assembly of People's organizations consulted on the draft amendment to the Constitution in 1992.

Both black and white. Both rejected and promised to consider. Not shy when giving a warning comments should respect the law in a brief letter that makes people doubt about his ability Phan Trung Ly as leading Editor-in-Chief in charge of the Commission Amendment to the Constitution, where the obligation to draft the Constitution with the words clear, bright, and most can not be interpreted in many ways.

Who read remember at the press conference on the afternoon of 29/12, he Phan Trung Ly confirmed: "In our country, all the power belongs to the people so the people have a very important role in the construction and amendment of the Constitution. "

Mr. Li is also quoted in the media and in bold letters "People can give comments on Article 4 of the Constitution as all other contents in the draft, nothing taboo."

There is nothing taboo on December 29 last year, only a month later was discarded on February 07, 2013 letter to the 72 intellectuals.

Deny the constitutional rights of the people? 

As soon as the letter was published, the group of intellectuals 72 announced feedback, which strongly rejected the monopoly of the National Assembly as the only place where you edit the Constitution, ie constitutional rights of People broken. Notice it says:

In our opinion, the above provisions of the current Constitution to deny the constitutional rights of the people; here is the first thing to fix in the Constitution and the amendments HP this time to understand the spirit of respect for the rights of People decide the Constitution 
Group of intellectuals 


Kiến nghị về sửa đổi Hiến pháp 1992

Proposals to amend the 1992 Constitution. RFA file-


In our opinion, the above provisions of the current Constitution to deny the constitutional rights of the people; here is the first thing to fix in the Constitution and the constitutional amendment process this time to understand the spirit respect the right of people to decide the Constitution.

We recommend that the Commission respects and made public in an honest recommendations on amending the Constitution, including the other comments with the Commission's draft, for people to discuss and debate; conditions necessarily have to go to organize a referendum to build a true Constitution of the Vietnamese people.

Mr Ho Ngoc Nhuan, Commissioner of the Vietnam Fatherland Front Central Committee, Vice Chairman of the Vietnam Fatherland Front, Ho Chi Minh City, the former political director of the morning news newspaper, opposition MPs in the National Assembly ARVN unit of Saigon in 1967-1975, can not say that he absolutely does not understand the ability to deny this happens but just sign the petition. Ho Ngoc Nhuan said his impression after receiving his letter Phan Trung Ly:

-Of course now in the country under this regime if anything happens, I along with the heart and mind to join it. They say their constitutional amendment also consulted but frankly in my heart, my own personal, I ask who's correct?

I also signed the petition are welcome, but I just try to see but I do not wonder what they answered. If that is correct, I'm Ho Ngoc Nhuan, I suggested fix but which one will fix? I did not sit in the National Assembly that correct? I do not sit in the Party to which the fix. I sit in the party anymore but ranked second, three million What do I edit? It is also what he top of the party, it is the Congress party is also the few he edits out ... but that what he be correct?

When people call his own comments, the comments would, frankly, because I do not boycott, I do not mind taking is not against anything. They call their own comments, but deep down I do not believe at all because they can be edited? That they are correct again, what shall fix the things that are taboo?

I was in the old regime, the new regime for many years now. There are many things they own opinion far. Now for my opinion but saying is one thing that they are correct or not is another story. I do not believe they are correct!

Mr. Phan Quang Tue, judge federal court in San Francisco to let us know his feelings about the contribution of the 72 intellectuals:

-I put my case in the country, I think that people in the country, whether members or not when signed with a name, address requires a constitutional amendment, and in the draft that they do not see what prompted silhouette to the Communist Party, I think that is an act of courage. Though I do not support proposals that, I still support the courageous actions of those people. They stand up, they dared to do.

Each times and discussed specific issues can be modified, but the orientation, the basic principle remains the same 
Phan Trung Ly 


Mr. Ho Ngoc Nhuan confirmed that only a Constituent Assembly elected by the people to freely be able to form a proper constitution, he said:

-I tell you the truth, the day that they said we elections, free elections house! Election of a Constituent Assembly of decent people to make a new constitution, which may also believe matter who is elected to the Constituent Assembly that is even lower in resolution but also now I get Who elected? Consequently this does not have to be such as Article Four of the Constitution, why let my head all the time?

In a talk on December 29 last year, Phan Trung Ly, Editor-in-Chief is responsible for the Draft Amendment to the Constitution stating an opinion is very important that the focus on the efforts of comments intellectuals are off the sea salt. Mr Li said: "Each and discussed specific issues can be modified, but the orientation, the basic principle remains the same."

Major orientations and principles was 2 and 4 of the current Constitution was 72 intellectuals rejected their proposal. The question: how to interpret the a habitual competent official arbitrariness and disregard for the people's ability to interpret policy is to encourage people to contribute to the Constitution or vice versa?


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